Category: Finance Committee

Introduction:

Links to the video recording and the council packet are at the bottom of this post. Please note any errors or omissions in the comments. Anything noted in brackets was inserted by Clarkston Sunshine.

Agenda Item #1, Call to Order (Video time mark 0:00:01):

Sue Wylie said okay, it’s 7 o’clock. I’m going to call the meeting to order.

Agenda Item #2, Pledge of Allegiance (Video time mark 0:00:03):

Wylie said if everyone would please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance.

(Pledge said.)

Agenda Item #3, Oath of Office for Newly Elected and Re-Elected Officials – Sue Wylie, Erica Jones, Amanda Forte, Al Avery (Video time mark 0:00:26):

• • Oath of Office, Sue Wylie, Mayor (page 3/35 of the council packet)
  • Oath of Office, Erica Jones, City Council (page 4/35 of the council packet)
  • Oath of Office, Amanda Forte, City Council (page 5/35 of the council packet)
  • Oath of Office, Alfred Avery, City Council (page 6/35 of the council packet)

Wylie said Item #3 on our agenda is an oath of office for our newly elected and re-elected officials, which is Sue Wylie, Erica Jones, Amanda Forte, and Al Avery (unintelligible).

Johnathan Smith (city manager) said all right, we’ll do this separately and then we’ll do it together.

Wylie said do I need to stand? Smith said yes, please. And you can just say “I do” at the end. Wylie said okay.

(Oath administered to Wylie.)

Smith said okay, that’s it. Thank you.

Wylie said in the back, they’re going like this. (Laughter.)

Smith said just sign there. Wylie said okay.

Smith said okay, Erica Jones, Amanda Forte, and Alfred Avery. Again, you can just say “I do” at the end.

(Oath administrated to Jones, Forte, and Avery.)

Smith said okay, thank you. I’ll have you sign and return it to me later.

Wylie said okay, thank you, and welcome to new and re-elected officials, and everybody in the public who’s here today.

Agenda Item #4, Motion: Appointment of Mayor Pro Tem: (Video time mark 0:02:25):

• • Motion – Mayor Pro Tem Appointment (page 7/35 of the council packet; video time mark):

On our agenda, we have Item #4, which is a motion appointment of Mayor Pro Tem.

(Wylie read the motion.)

Forte said I’ll make the motion to approve Rodgers. Wylie said okay. Second, Quisenberry and Casey. Wylie said okay, I heard Quisenberry first. Smith said I’m sorry, Quisenberry was first. Wylie said I’m sorry, Forte was first, and of those two, I heard Quisenberry before. He was the first, Quisenberry. Tom Ryan [city attorney] said he was the first second. Wylie said he was the first second. Forte said perfect.

Wylie said any discussion from council.

No discussion.

Wylie said any discussion from the public.

No discussion.

Wylie said this is a motion.

Motion passed by unanimous voice vote.

Wylie said Rodgers is again appointed Mayor Pro Tem. Motion is adopted.

Agenda Item #5, Roll Call (Video time mark 0:03:27):

Wylie said Item #5, we have a roll call, and Smith, would you take the roll call please? Smith said okay.

Sue Wylie, Laura Rodgers, Al Avery, Gary Casey, Amanda Forte, Erica Jones, and Ted Quisenberry were present.

Wylie said okay, great, thank you.

Agenda Item #6, Approval of Agenda – Motion (Video time mark 0:03:56):

Wylie said Item #6 is approval of the agenda. We have a motion to, we need a motion to approve the agenda as presented. Anybody want to make a motion?

Motion by Rodgers; second Avery.

Wylie said any discussion from council.

No discussion.

Wylie said any discussion from the public.

No discussion.

Motion to approve the agenda passed by unanimous voice vote.

Wylie said the motion is approved.

Agenda Item #7, Public Comments (Video time mark 0:04:23):

[Though public comments can sometimes irritate the city council, there is value to both the council and the public in hearing them. While they can’t eliminate public comments entirely without violating the Open Meetings Act, your city council has occasionally decided not to acknowledge public comments during a city council meeting unless the person submitting the comments also appears at the meeting (in-person or electronically) to personally read them. In the past, members of the public have been cut off for exceeding the city council’s arbitrary three-minute time limit (it’s arbitrary because no time limits are required by the Open Meetings Act).

If your public comments were submitted to the council but not read, or if you tried to make public comments but your comments were cut short, please email them to clarkstonsunshine@gmail.com and I will include them in my informal meeting summaries either under public comments or under the specific agenda item that you want to speak to.]

Wylie said Item #7 is public comments.

(Wylie read the rules for public comments.)

Wylie said would anybody like to speak in public comments.

No comments.

Wylie said okay, then I’ll close public comments.

Agenda Item #8 – FYI: (Video time mark 0:04:55):

• • Michigan Municipal League Training, page 8/35 of the council packet)

Wylie said Item #8 is FYI. We have a notice about Michigan Municipal League, or MML, training.

(Wylie read the flyer.)

Wylie said, and I think it was in our last meeting, Quisenberry spoke very much in favor of this training. So even if you’ve been at council and you’ve never gone, it’s a great method. And like you said, I think, that there’s a lot of emphasis on the FOIA. Quisenberry said probably 80% of the topics that I did the in-person one, and I thought it was a tremendous amount of value. Wylie said I also did the in-person one, and I’ve also done the weekend, not newly elected, but elected officials. I thought there was a lot of value. And they get into more on budgeting and other issues. So again, I recommend it. I highly recommend it.

Quisenberry said plus you learn more, a lot of the different assistance that the MML can provide for us. Wylie said yeah. And I think it’s good, too, you just hear about little different things that different communities do, that they offer, and it just kind of gives you a good overall education on how communities, different communities operate.

Wylie said anything else on this.

No comments.

Wylie said okay.

Wylie said is there anything else under FYI.

Rodgers said I just wanted to remind everybody about the Christmas Market on December 14th. It’s coming up faster than what we think. Anybody that is, we’re still looking for adult volunteers to help with games and help kids on and off the hayride, that sort of thing. The market runs from 4:00 to 8:00. You don’t have to be there for the whole four hours. You can do shifts or whatever. So, if anybody knows of anybody that is interested in helping in the market, let me know. Wylie said thank you.

Wylie said anybody else have anything for FYI.

No comments.

Agenda Item #9 – City Manager’s Report (Video time mark 0:07:16):

• • City Manager’s Report, November 25, 2024 (page 9/35 of the council packet)

Wylie said okay. Moving on to Item #9. We’ve got the city manager’s report, which is included in our agenda package. (To Smith), Wylie said did you want to add anything else to it.

Smith said just a kind of (unintelligible) point there. Welcome to the new members. So, we did send out your e-mail accounts today, so hopefully you got that. You can start using your new e-mail accounts. Anybody wants business cards, we’re in the process of generating that. (To Wylie), I know you had asked for one before (unintelligible) dropped into the card (unintelligible). Wylie said thank you.

Smith said the new website, we’ve been working on it for a while. It’s finally coming to fruition. There was a delay there while we were without a clerk but we’re getting it started again, starting the testing and training. So, the new website, I think you’ll find very exciting. It’s really fresh and so intuitive to use. I think it’s a huge improvement, so we’re excited about getting that launched here. We’re targeting a year-end launch, so January 1st.

Smith said the curbing on West Washington and Robertson Court is complete, so we’re excited to get that done in the last few more days of the season. So that was good.

Smith said and Terry Hawke has completed the modifications to the Pony Cycle. They’re in the back here. It’s in the back here to look at it. So, those are all complete now, so we won’t install it until the spring. It’s all approved and is safe to step on. So, I’m going to go ahead and pay Hawke as we agreed, and barring any objection, we’re going to go ahead and complete that phase and then we’ll store the bike until the spring and then install it. Wylie said thanks.

Wylie said any questions or comments from council members for Smith regarding the city manager’s report.

Wylie recognized Quisenberry for a comment.

Quisenberry said Smith just took over the clerk e-mail account. My only question was, is the two FOIAs that were overlooked and processed late, was there any peril to that because we didn’t, because they sat in cyberspace for a while rather than processing them. Smith said right. One was about four weeks old, and the other was about two weeks old. So, I apologized to the requester and sent those out, and I haven’t heard anything back. Wylie said and I assume now somebody is going to be checking these? Smith said yes.

Wylie said anything else from council on the manager’s report.

Wylie recognized Cara Catallo for a comment.

[Sound on the Independence Television recording out for a moment.]

Catallo said I think it’s imperative to sort of get going with the charging aspect, even if it’s not a lot of money sooner rather than later. And I also, just as a resident, would appreciate knowing at council meetings and the manager report, like, maybe a number, how many new FOIAs since the last meeting, just because it seems like such an exorbitant amount for such a tiny town. (To Catallo), Smith said I think that’s a great idea.

Smith said we’ve talked about it as far as keeping track of the numbers. I think that’s something that council should know, how much time we spend on FOIA requests, and how many we receive to date, the status of those. We’ve talked about it. I just need to get it implemented, get something on the schedule that will keep you up to date on what FOIAs we have in the house, so you can get a sense for how many we receive.

Smith said the other thing as far as charging, absolutely. We’ve talked with Ryan about this a few times, and we’ve talked with Carlito Young, our FOIA specialist. We actually talked to another FOIA specialist last week, and all say the same thing. You must charge, and you must get on this, so it’s nothing we didn’t know. We knew that we had to do this, and in the last council meeting, we said we’d start that January 1st. But we’re, I think we’re on a good track to start that immediately, so there’s one new request that came in, and I really, I just asked for a 10-day extension on that request that came in, and we will be putting together a fee schedule, a fee estimate for that, and sending it off to the requester for approval before actually doing the work. So, that’s the new process. The FOIA request, if it warrants additional work, we’ll request a 10-day extension, and then we’ll start working on the estimate, send that to the requester, and the requester responds. When that response comes back with a deposit, 50% down deposit, then we will start work. We will complete the work, and then we will say okay to the requester, your FOIA request is now complete, we have your answers, we have your documents, whatever it is you’re seeking, and here’s the balance due. You must pay the balance due before we will turn over the documents. So, that is the process of how this will work. We’ve got our FOIA cost estimator spreadsheet that we’re using now. It’s actually on our website as well. Karen [DeLorge, former clerk] actually put it out there. We’re going to start using it. They’re now on diligence, and yes, every FOIA going forward will be charged, unless it’s something I can do in literally five minutes.

Wylie recognized Quisenberry for a question.

Quisenberry said my assumption and hope is that we are charging the maximum amount we can for whatever the law allows us to charge we’re doing it, and there’s no reductions across the board. Smith said well, there are guidelines on how that structure works. So, if it’s something that, for example, Evelyn [Bihl, deputy clerk, treasurer assistant, administrative assistant] could do, if I give her access to my e-mail account, if I gave her access, could she go in there and find these documents on her own? Then she is, no offense, she is the lowest paid employee in the office, so if she can do the work, then that would be the rate at which we charge. Quisenberry said that’s what the statute said. I just want to make sure that we’re charging the most, everything that we can, that the statute allows. Smith said right. Now, it’s not something that she has to know, very, or could not do that would require me to do, and then it has to be my wage. We’re watching these guidelines very carefully. There are even some things that our city attorney or FOIA expert, Carlito, could do relative to redaction. That can be, attorney’s fees can be, at his rate, can be acted on. So, we’re making sure that we’re not over or undercharging the FOIA requests. But yes, absolutely, that’s the plan.

Wylie said I think Casey had a question.

Casey said I just, two actually. I think it’s going to be a very rare instance where we can charge attorney’s fees on a FOIA request. Those are going to be few and far between. Smith said yeah.

Casey said but my other comment is, would it be helpful if we had a standing space on the agenda where the new FOIA requests are discussed. Smith said well, you know, absolutely, for information’s sake, we can put that on there, whether it’s on the city manager report or somewhere. We can encapsulate a spreadsheet, if you will, that would keep track of all this. And you can see the new requests that have come in since the last council meeting. That’s why they’re envisioned. As far as discussion, we really can’t speculate what the request is asking for or why. We have to [the sound on the Independence Television recording cut out] put it before the law. But absolutely, we’ll put that on the spreadsheet, whether it’s part of the city manager report or a separate agenda item altogether. It’s up to council. Casey said I know people have been saying that. Smith said okay. Okay. It’s definitely something we need to do. I’ve already kind of got it in my mind how this spreadsheet would look. And you can get a sense for the historical ones as well as the new ones. I’m not sure how far back in time I’ll go but we’ll try to get some of the more recent ones. Wylie said okay.

Wylie said anybody else on council have questions or comments on this topic.

No comments.

Wylie said anybody else in public.

No comments.

Agenda Item #10 – Consent Agenda (Video time mark 0:16:25):

• • 10-28-2024 Final Minutes (page 10/35 of the council packet)
  • 11-12-2024 Draft Minutes (page 13/35 of the council packet)
  • 11-25-2024 Treasurer’s Report (page 16/35 of the council packet)
  • 11-21-2024 Revenue and Expenditure Report for the Period ending 10-31-2024 (page 17/35 of the council packet)

Wylie said okay. Moving on to Item #10, consent agenda. We have the final minutes of the October 28, 2024, regular meeting, the draft minutes of the November 12, 2024, regular meeting, and the treasurer’s report from November 25, 2024. And I need a motion to approve the consent agenda.

Motion by Forte; second Rodgers.

Wylie said is there any discussion from council.

No discussion.

Wylie said any discussion or comments from the audience, from the public.

No comments.

Motion to approve the consent agenda passed by unanimous voice vote.

Smith said I’m sorry, can you tell me who (unintelligible). Wylie said yeah, it was Forte made the motion and Rodgers made the second. Smith said thank you.

Agenda Item #11, Unfinished Business (Video time mark 0:17:21):

Wylie said Item #11 is unfinished business, which there is none.

Agenda Item #12, New Business (Video time mark 0:17:24):

Item 12a – Discussion: Election Results (Video time mark 0:17:26):

• • Election Results (page 27/35 of the council packet)

Wylie said Item #12, New Business. #12a is a discussion on the election results.

(To Angela Guillen [contract clerk]), Smith said yes, go ahead.

Guillen said all right, just wanted to share, we received our official canvas from Oakland County for the November 5th general election today. It is the official canvas of votes cast for our city. It fits with the Oakland County Circuit Court seal. So, officially, there’s our gold seal, so I’ll leave it for council if they want to look at it. And then with that, the board of state canvassers met on Friday, November 22nd at 10 a.m. in Lansing. And that is to canvass and certify the election statewide. So, once the county canvasses and certifies the election, it goes to the state, and that’s where they’re at currently. And then today was the deadline for that. So, we did get a letter from Secretary of State Benson that stated over 5.7 million voters cast ballots in this election, making our state’s highest election turnout in history. So, we made history, and I want to thank the residents for getting out and exercising their right to vote. And then, lastly, we are just waiting for post-election audits as the Bureau of Elections will be conducting a statewide ballot audit. And that will commence immediately after any recounts. So, we continue to be immersed and engaged in this election, even though the election date is over or passed. Wylie said okay.

Wylie said questions or comments from council.

Forte said thanks for all you guys did for the election. Bihl said thanks for the experience. I learned a lot. We did. We all did. We did.

Wylie said I did hear, when the Oakland Press reporter called me last week, and I said something about is there any other cities going through what we’ve been going through with all the write-ins. He said, oh, yeah. He said the one he knew of especially was in Oakland Township with their library board. They had eleven people running, ten of them were write-in candidates for four positions. And a much bigger, much, many, many more people voting. They’re still working on that.

Bihl said yeah, I think it was one in Harrison Township, and it took an hour and a half for each one of those tally sheets to run off the machine. They were there until three, four in the morning. Wylie said oh. Oh. And how long does it take our tally sheets to run off? Bihl said well, because we only had five write-ins. They had a lot more. Ours took like, what, fifteen, twenty minutes. Wylie said each, for each one. Bihl said yeah. Guillen said it still prints out each individual one. Bihl said name, how you wrote it, how you printed it, how you circled the box. Smith said yeah. Wylie said okay.

Smith said I didn’t know. I think, last meeting, everyone was doing all the legwork leading up to, there’s so much planning, and then for the actual day, both Bihl and Guillen, having Guillen here was just a life saver for Bihl and I and we’re just so thankful that she was here. Wylie said okay.

Item 12b – Discussion: City Council Meeting Agenda Proceedings (Video time mark 0:20:34):

• • Meeting Rules of Procedure (page 28/35 of the council packet)

Wylie said okay. Moving on to #12b, which is discussion, council meeting agenda, proceedings. And I asked to have this included in the packet. And just because, new people on council, and so everybody, I wanted everybody to be familiar with it. And hopefully, those of you on council will keep it, look at it. I don’t know that there’s anything you don’t know. Maybe, if you’re new, something you don’t know. But it just kind of goes through everything that, for the preparation for the meetings, all the different things that happen on the agenda. And I just think it’s important information to know.

Wylie said any questions or comments on that. That’s my perspective on it.

Smith said so, you recall when we left this and then developed this. Wylie said I thought Jennifer [Speagle, former clerk] finished it. Wylie said Speagle, I got it started and then Speagle took it over. Did you think that there was something unfinished on it? Smith said I just didn’t know, did we accept this as a – Wylie said oh, that I don’t know. Smith said did council accept it. Wylie said I don’t know. It was about two years ago, I want to say. Two to three years ago. (Multiple council members made unintelligible responses.) Avery said I was on the council then. And I know we made some changes. Wylie said yes, we did. Smith said I don’t remember actually voting on it, but I’ll go back and look. Wylie said okay.

Smith said and I know that we have talked about policies and procedures. You had brought that up a few meetings ago. And this, plus along with the city’s policy and procedure manual, kind of dabble in that same arena. So, I mean, I don’t know if you’re still looking into that, do you want to pursue that?

Quisenberry said I was looking at a code of conduct. Smith said okay. Code of conduct, you did say that. Quisenberry said which is needed. Smith said okay.

Forte said do we need to change it from a discussion to a motion to approve this. Smith said let me investigate. It may have already been approved. I just want to make sure.

Wylie said and one other item I wanted to add to this. Because when I was looking at this, I was actually looking at this, I think, before the last meeting. I also pulled up our pamphlet. I don’t know if they’re back there anymore. But I started, Cara [Catallo] fixed it for us maybe four, five, six months ago because there was some misspelling. Oh, okay. But now it needs to be changed again. And so basically, I (unintelligible) need somebody to read it. And I noticed it printed backwards. But I do have it amended. And hopefully we can get this back out. And if you don’t know, this is a pamphlet we have for anybody coming to a meeting. And they can look it over. Just kind of get a brief idea of what happens at the meetings and what the procedures are. Okay.

Moving on to #12c.

Quisenberry said ultimately, I’ll suggest that we’re not going to take any action on this now. Because we have a whole new council, I guess I’d suggest that all of us look at this and study it to see if there’s anything, if it hasn’t been adopted, and we’re going to adopt it at the next meeting, take in between now and then to look it over so that we don’t have to wait any more after that. Wylie said okay. Smith said I can let you know via email whether or not this was adopted previously, and I guess you could, some or all of you could look at it and if there’s some changes you’d like to see included in that, you can let me know.

Wylie said okay. Anything else on the council meeting agenda proceedings?

No comments.

Item 12c – Motion: Finance Committee Appointments (Video time mark 0:24:32):

• • Motion – Finance Committee Appointment (page 34/35 of the council packet)

Wylie said now we’re on #12c, motion finance committee appointments.

(Wylie read the motion.)

Wylie said so, we need a motion. Part of the reason this is important is because we’re going to be considering some salaries and other adjustments, perhaps, to the budget. So, I need a motion. You know, before we even do this, anybody want to come? Let’s just start with that. Is anybody interested in being on the finance committee? (Avery raised his hand.) Wylie said Avery. Okay. Okay. Would somebody like to make a motion to appoint Avery to the finance committee? Okay.

Motion by Quisenberry. Wylie said we have a motion to appoint Avery to the finance committee. And I need a second. Second Casey.

Wylie said any discussion from council.

No comments.

Wylie said any discussion from the public.

No comments.

Motion to appoint Avery to the finance committee passed by unanimous voice vote.

Wylie said then Avery is appointed. The motion is adopted, and Avery is appointed to the finance committee.

Item 12d – Motion: Historic District Commission Appointment of M. Luginski Replacement (Video time mark 0:26:12):

• • Motion – Historic District Commission Appointment (page 35/35 of the council packet)

Wylie said we have #12d, motion, Historic District Commission appointment of Melissa Luginski replacement.

(Wylie read the motion.)

Wylie said we will need a motion seconded by members to fill this HDC position. And I did send a resume and my recommendation, and Annette Zemon-Parker is here tonight. She’s the person who I am recommending for this position, and I don’t know about Mark [Lamphier, former city council member who lost his reelection bid on November 5]. Somebody said he’s considering. And Zemon-Parker, do you want to stand up and introduce yourself? Zemon-Parker said sure. Wylie said I’ll just preface this by saying, Zemon-Parker got in touch with me several months ago. She lives in the historic district. Do you mind coming up to the podium? She lives in the historic district, and she’s had dealings with you, had to get some approvals, I think, from the historic district. And then I got in touch with her maybe a week or so ago when the position, that I knew that there was going to be an opening, and then she and I met. We met for the first time last week and talked a lot about it.

Annette Zemon-Parker:

So, I’m Annette Zemon-Parker. I do live in the historic district, but I have a non-contributing home. We’ve gone in front of the historic commission, like anybody else who has to, wants to do improvements on their home. My background is I’ve got over 40 years in the landscape industry. I’ve worked in both public and private sectors. While working in the public sector, I’ve done plan review, ordinance enforcement, landscape review. I’ve also been on the Springfield Township Planning Commission Board for a year, the Parks and Rec Commission for six years. I was a teacher for a 15-year stint, so I’ve done quite a bit in regards to that. And I write very well because I was the secretary of our school improvement plan. And it was one of those where the state said, you don’t get it right this time, you’re shutting it down. So, we made sure we got it right, and I was the one that got the words in. Other than that, we’ve lived in the historic district for seven years. Prior to that we lived in Springfield Township, where we raised our kids for about 25 years.

Wylie said one of the things that impressed me when Zemon-Parker and I met last week was that you had actually sat down and gone over and read the rules and regulations – Zemon-Parker said yes – (continuing) regarding the historic district, and I thought that was impressive that you had that much consideration and interest in this.

Zemon-Parker said when we moved into our house, that was in part of the packet that the realtor gave us, so, of course, I read it. So, you know, we had enough rules, which I love it. Wylie said but you even, I don’t know if you said, you went through the state. Zemon-Parker said I was, yeah, I think in the packet, not only did it have to run through the local government, but it also had to run through the state. So, I was also reading that. Yes, I’m one of those people can read the insurance documents and understand it.

Wylie said okay. I would like to make a motion to appoint Zemon-Parker to the Historic District Commission. Second Forte.

Wylie said any discussion or comments from anybody on council.

Wylie recognized Casey for a comment.

Casey said it says here Lamphier is considering the position. Wylie said I don’t know anything about it. Oh, I’m sorry. Casey said where did that come from. Smith said so, I reached out to Lamphier when he was just kind of, really started coming into his own here on the council when he was not renewed. So, I asked him if there would be some way that he’d be interested in staying involved in the city government. And I said, for example, we have an opening on the Historic District Commission. Would you consider that? So, he came in. We talked. I gave him an overview of what the Historic District Commission does. I said, give it some thought and let me know on Monday, today. And he did. He did come back, and he was saying, I’m pretty sure, but let me let you know, and he did today. So, he says he is interested. The beauty of this position, of this filling Luginski’s term, is it only goes through June of next year. So, it’s a six-month stint. So, I said, if you didn’t work out, you didn’t like it, you just wouldn’t have to ask for anymore. But Lamphier seemed to be interested in that as a way of kind of getting his feet wet. And so, he did come back and say he’d be interested if council would have him, but (unintelligible) just let me know. Wylie said OK.

Wylie said again, as I mentioned before, Zemon-Parker did reach out to me. I don’t know if you remember how long ago. I’d say at least six months ago. It’s been a while. Zemon-Parker said I think it was late spring. Wylie said late spring, okay. Zemon-Parker said yeah. Wylie said that she was interested in serving on the Historic District Commission. At that time, there were no openings.

Wylie said any other questions or comments from council.

Ryan said I guess I’d just say if council wanted, I mean, most of the nominations really don’t need to be seconded. But if somebody wanted to put another name up, then the first person would get four votes. I mean, unless there’s just one nomination. If somebody had moved a nomination (unintelligible). Wylie said so, we vote on two separate votes. Ryan said well, no, no, no. Well, yeah, if there’s another nomination, or if there’s no other nomination, somebody moved, they’d be closed again. Wylie said okay. Ryan said you’d have to vote by affirmation. Wylie said okay.

Wylie said any questions or comments from anybody in the public on this. Okay.

Wylie recognized Cara Catallo and then Quisenberry for a comment. Catallo said oh, go ahead.

Quisenberry said I guess mine is procedurally in that the ordinance, in the section in the ordinance that talks about appointing the commission members, it clearly says the members shall be appointed by the mayor. And it says the vacancy on the commission shall be filled within 60 days with the appointment by the appointing authority. Wylie said we changed that. Ryan said that’s been changed. Quisenberry said okay, this is the one that’s on our website. Ryan said it’s inaccurate. It was changed a number of years ago. To say, this came up a number of years ago, people didn’t want the mayor to have the control of the appointment process. So, anybody – (unintelligible crosstalk on council) – (continuing), Ryan said so anyway, just respectfully, that anyone now can make, the ordinance, anybody can make the appointment. Wylie said it was the one way of appointing someone. It’s different from everything, all our other methods for appointing somebody. Quisenberry said it would make so much more sense, being that we’ve been trying to see if we could maybe put the right one on there. Wylie said okay.

Wylie said anybody else have questions or comments, either from council or in the public.

(To Catallo), Wylie said oh, I’m sorry. Yes, go ahead.

Catallo said well, I was just going to, like, you seem like a great candidate, and I’m not speaking negatively at all about you, but there was somebody else who was interested. So, in the event you opted to table it, to consider Lamphier, that there’s probably a third person who’s also interested but wasn’t able to be here tonight. Wylie said okay.

Wylie said anybody else.

Quisenberry said did we do any public, publicizing this position for anybody interested in the city, or in this position, to notify the city. Smith said yes. It was on the website, and it went out on my email, my email blast. Quisenberry said that goes to whoever signs up for it. Smith said correct. Avery said nothing in the Clarkston News. Smith said no. Avery said and then when did you put it on your, it was just this past Friday, right. Smith said just this past Friday. Wylie said oh, I thought it said six days. You told me – Smith said it’s been on the website. Wylie said oh, I’m sorry, I missed that. It belongs on the website. Rodgers said so, it went on your email on Friday, but it’s been publicized. Smith said on the website (unintelligible).

Wylie said anything else.

Casey said I’d like to nominate Lamphier. Second Avery.

Wylie said any discussion or comment on nomination for Lamphier.

Wylie recognized Rodgers for a comment.

Rodgers said I’m just curious. Do you have to make this decision tonight? Like, could you get the candidates that are interested to come and, you know, kind of get the candidates to be here tonight? [Sound issues with the Independence Television recording.] So, is that like, you know, do we think about (unintelligible). Smith said more than likely (unintelligible). Quisenberry said then would it be best to table this. Ryan said yes, sir. Avery said in order to do that, the motions have to be withdrawn. Ryan said no, no, no. Tabling takes precedence, and you could also direct city manager (unintelligible) to publicize it again because we’ve got two more weeks, and then encourage people to come that are interested. Avery said and then Catallo said there was a third person possibly, that would give that person some time to make their decision.

Avery said I would move to table. Second Quisenberry.

Wylie said (unintelligible) what do we do about tabling and how does (unintelligible). We’ve got two people, so we have – who said it first? Yeah, I’ll say it first. Ryan said no discussion, just a vote up or down to table. Wylie said up or down and is that the majority. Ryan said yes. Wylie said not 100 percent. Ryan said oh, no, no, just the majority.

Wylie said okay. So, we have a motion to table the motion and a second.

Wylie said any discussion from people on council.

Forte said I think it would be great, like, if whoever wants to be in this position shows up and says why they want it. Because I think that (unintelligible) showing up and showing that you want to be on this board. Wylie said I agree. Ryan said maybe a date certain. Was that December 9^th? Wylie said correct. Ryan said okay.

Wylie said okay. Anything else from anybody else on council?

No discussion.

Wylie said any other discussion.

No discussion.

Jones said can we make sure that there’s something in the Clarkston News. Can a notice go in the Clarkston News? Smith said yes. Let’s see. No, I can still get it in next Monday. Wylie said today’s Monday, so you can get it in by next Monday, I think. Smith said not this Wednesday. Wylie said what, for – yeah (unintelligible). It has to be by Monday for the following week. Avery said you can just update the website, too. Smith said okay.

Wylie said any other discussion on tabling this motion.

No discussion.

Motion to table the nomination passed by voice vote. Wylie opposed.

Wylie said so, it is tabled. Ryan said yes. Wylie said okay.

(To Zemon-Parker), Wylie said thank you for coming. Hopefully you can come again on our next meeting. Avery said thank you.

Agenda Item #13, Adjourn (Video time mark 0:38:03):

Wylie said and we are now at Item #13, adjourn the meeting. I need a motion to adjourn the meeting.

Motion by Jones; second Forte.

Motion to adjourn passed by unanimous voice vote.

Wylie said adjourn the meeting is at 7:38.

Resources:

• • Link to video recording here
  • 11-25-2024 City Council packet